Comments on: The So-Called “Critique” of Civilization http://www.popocculture.com/42/the-so-called-critique-of-civilization Transcend Trends Sat, 06 Sep 2008 05:35:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: eyensane http://www.popocculture.com/42/the-so-called-critique-of-civilization#comment-2575 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:23:00 +0000 http://www.popocculture.com/42/the-so-called-critique-of-civilization#comment-2575 rainbow gatherings-welcomehome.org there not just for hippies anymore.no cash allowed in camp-barter system- and naked people and fires with drum circles.yummy.south east reginal is more like hobo movie fest,all kinds in the florida forest for winter but still fun if the right person duct tapes you to a tree rainbow gatherings-welcomehome.org there not just for hippies anymore.no cash allowed in camp-barter system- and naked people and fires with drum circles.yummy.south east reginal is more like hobo movie fest,all kinds in the florida forest for winter but still fun if the right person duct tapes you to a tree

]]> by: Joshua http://www.popocculture.com/42/the-so-called-critique-of-civilization#comment-759 Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:26:31 +0000 http://www.popocculture.com/42/the-so-called-critique-of-civilization#comment-759 As an "anarcho-primitivist" my croatan ideals led me all the way out of modern civilization, i was a forrest-hopping animal trapping leatherbound nomad. Although this aboriginal bliss was deep and fufilling on many levels, i couldn't help but to see the footprint of the modern, no matter how far I went. I was often dependant on comercial waste for forraging, and often found my way to the godawfull blight upon the earth known as the modern city. It wouldn't go away no matter how far I went. After a few years of this, I woke up one day and asked myself - 'what am I doing?' Surviving. And that was about it. I survived off the parasite that was killing the planet. I was still part of this experiment. Better to return to the machine, not for it's comfort - although I admit that's certainly an enjoyable aspect - but for the chance to influence it - to change the nature of the technosphere. So here I am, integrating within the modern world - i'm almost a fully functioning citizen again (after a year). I realize now, how small the change actually is. It takes so little to put civilization back in order with the greater order of the planet. But people are weak, and lack the conviction needed to force such a change into action. So now i work with dissaffected youth on engendering the ideals so hard won in my own life to find. Hopefully, it will all go down in a decade or two, so i can retire in the south american jungle, living out the rest of my days within the heart of organic biodensity. Just chippin in my 2 cents J As an “anarcho-primitivist” my croatan ideals led me all the way out of modern civilization, i was a forrest-hopping animal trapping leatherbound nomad.

Although this aboriginal bliss was deep and fufilling on many levels, i couldn’t help but to see the footprint of the modern, no matter how far I went. I was often dependant on comercial waste for forraging, and often found my way to the godawfull blight upon the earth known as the modern city.

It wouldn’t go away no matter how far I went. After a few years of this, I woke up one day and asked myself - ‘what am I doing?’ Surviving. And that was about it. I survived off the parasite that was killing the planet. I was still part of this experiment.

Better to return to the machine, not for it’s comfort - although I admit that’s certainly an enjoyable aspect - but for the chance to influence it - to change the nature of the technosphere.

So here I am, integrating within the modern world - i’m almost a fully functioning citizen again (after a year). I realize now, how small the change actually is. It takes so little to put civilization back in order with the greater order of the planet. But people are weak, and lack the conviction needed to force such a change into action.

So now i work with dissaffected youth on engendering the ideals so hard won in my own life to find.

Hopefully, it will all go down in a decade or two, so i can retire in the south american jungle, living out the rest of my days within the heart of organic biodensity.

Just chippin in my 2 cents

J

]]> by: Ah, To Be a Caveman Again - Pop Occulture Magazine http://www.popocculture.com/42/the-so-called-critique-of-civilization#comment-394 Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:47:49 +0000 http://www.popocculture.com/42/the-so-called-critique-of-civilization#comment-394 [...] Using that image of primitive man as a hulking brute then as our springboard, I like to imagine how a group of cavemen would react to the types of conversations that typically occur on my website. On a recent post over at PopOcculture.com, Ted Heistman, author of the blog “Free Range Organic Human” left a comment about primitive societies, in which he pointed out that “They don’t have celebrities or even writers.” And adding later that “To live in a primitive hunter gatherer society requires almost no ego.” I tend to agree and I think in some sense, it might be impossible to communicate to our imaginary caveman friends some of the ideas we talk about here. [...] […] Using that image of primitive man as a hulking brute then as our springboard, I like to imagine how a group of cavemen would react to the types of conversations that typically occur on my website. On a recent post over at PopOcculture.com, Ted Heistman, author of the blog “Free Range Organic Human” left a comment about primitive societies, in which he pointed out that “They don’t have celebrities or even writers.” And adding later that “To live in a primitive hunter gatherer society requires almost no ego.” I tend to agree and I think in some sense, it might be impossible to communicate to our imaginary caveman friends some of the ideas we talk about here. […]

]]> by: Ted Heistman http://www.popocculture.com/42/the-so-called-critique-of-civilization#comment-331 Fri, 06 Oct 2006 07:27:00 +0000 http://www.popocculture.com/42/the-so-called-critique-of-civilization#comment-331 I thought of that. Living out in the woods, hopefully in a little group (not just as a hermit) and not really caring what the rest of the world thinks or does. That is what primitive people are like. They don't have celebrities or even writers. Its a paradox really. To be an anarcho primitivist, I think requires a huge ego. You have to have the audacity to question and critique absolutely everything about civilized society. To live in a primitive hunter gatherer society requires almost no ego. Living communally, co-operating revering the practices of ones elders. Thoreau is a good example of the mindset. He thought his forbears were doing everything wrong, going the wrong way, basically since the Greeks and he was attracted to the indians and how they lived. People who revered their elders and tried to do everthing they did. I thought of that. Living out in the woods, hopefully in a little group (not just as a hermit) and not really caring what the rest of the world thinks or does. That is what primitive people are like. They don’t have celebrities or even writers.

Its a paradox really. To be an anarcho primitivist, I think requires a huge ego. You have to have the audacity to question and critique absolutely everything about civilized society.

To live in a primitive hunter gatherer society requires almost no ego. Living communally, co-operating revering the practices of ones elders.

Thoreau is a good example of the mindset. He thought his forbears were doing everything wrong, going the wrong way, basically since the Greeks and he was attracted to the indians and how they lived. People who revered their elders and tried to do everthing they did.

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