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		<title>by: Pop Occulture</title>
		<link>http://www.popocculture.com/21/nothings-shocking#comment-20</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yes I will be adding that and a few other things when I get back from vacation.</description>
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		<title>by: mrG</title>
		<link>http://www.popocculture.com/21/nothings-shocking#comment-18</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>oops ... &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/em&gt; gotta watch those closing tags.  Maybe you can fix?  maybe you need a '&lt;i&gt;preview&lt;/i&gt;' stage :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops &#8230; </i></em> gotta watch those closing tags.  Maybe you can fix?  maybe you need a &#8216;<i>preview</i>&#8216; stage <img src='http://www.popocculture.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: mrG</title>
		<link>http://www.popocculture.com/21/nothings-shocking#comment-17</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>R. Buckminster Fuller believed that, a few hucksters aside, everyone is telling the truth &quot;to the best of their ability&quot;; Sun Ra believed that everyone is telling a truth that is &lt;em&gt;also&lt;/em&gt; a lie.

But consider this: Our cartesian propagandizing accepts only the &lt;i&gt;objective&lt;/i&gt; world of Ayn Randians, yet, dig this, &lt;em&gt;not one of us actually lives in that world!&lt;/em&gt;

We don't.  We don't live in it, we don't experience it, we don't interact with it, it is like Einstein's aether, an unexperienceable quantity which is therefore a profoundly &lt;em&gt;meaningless&lt;/em&gt; concept!  Think about that while you think about this: The real world, the tangible experiential world in which I sit as I conceive and write this and in which you sit as your read and conceive what I wrote, &lt;em&gt;is a cognitive construct borne of neurological sensors biologically tuned and connected across chemical interactions with Ayn Rand's &quot;objective&quot; reality&lt;/em&gt;.  That's worth repeating: The reality you and I live and love in is &lt;em&gt;cognitive&lt;/em&gt;, not 'physical'.  It has no need of behaving according to the rules of the physics du jour, it has no need of being 'consistent' or 'constant' or even 'predictable', nor does it have any rules to say it cannot be any of those things.  The best we can say about this world of our human experience is that it is a &lt;em&gt;mirror-world&lt;/em&gt; which is itself composed of the quarks and muons of the Objective World, and thus may someday be discovered as an effect of the 'physical' world, but bottom line for you and I living inside the experience, it is a &lt;em&gt;dreamworld&lt;/em&gt;, literally, physically and in every reality, it is a &lt;em&gt;dreaming&lt;/em&gt;.

QED.

So all these stories, they aren't desensitizing you, or jading you or misleading you or disorienting you.  Every last one of them is screaming at you to pay attention and &lt;em&gt;see&lt;/em&gt;; as it is written, &lt;i&gt;He who is now called 'prophet' was once called 'seer'&lt;/i&gt;.  Once seen, one can look for patterns, for principles of gestalt effect, then learn to manipulate the gestalt to obtain an effect or manipulate the effect on some given gestalt (because it is a dreamworld, it is maleable and fluid) and &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; then moves into the vocation we call &lt;i&gt;shamanism&lt;/i&gt;.

Feel any better now?

Of course, I may be handing out a truth here ... but it's also a lie :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R. Buckminster Fuller believed that, a few hucksters aside, everyone is telling the truth &#8220;to the best of their ability&#8221;; Sun Ra believed that everyone is telling a truth that is <em>also</em> a lie.</p>
<p>But consider this: Our cartesian propagandizing accepts only the <i>objective</i> world of Ayn Randians, yet, dig this, <em>not one of us actually lives in that world!</em></p>
<p>We don&#8217;t.  We don&#8217;t live in it, we don&#8217;t experience it, we don&#8217;t interact with it, it is like Einstein&#8217;s aether, an unexperienceable quantity which is therefore a profoundly <em>meaningless</em> concept!  Think about that while you think about this: The real world, the tangible experiential world in which I sit as I conceive and write this and in which you sit as your read and conceive what I wrote, <em>is a cognitive construct borne of neurological sensors biologically tuned and connected across chemical interactions with Ayn Rand&#8217;s &#8220;objective&#8221; reality</em>.  That&#8217;s worth repeating: The reality you and I live and love in is <em>cognitive</em>, not &#8216;physical&#8217;.  It has no need of behaving according to the rules of the physics du jour, it has no need of being &#8216;consistent&#8217; or &#8216;constant&#8217; or even &#8216;predictable&#8217;, nor does it have any rules to say it cannot be any of those things.  The best we can say about this world of our human experience is that it is a <em>mirror-world</em> which is itself composed of the quarks and muons of the Objective World, and thus may someday be discovered as an effect of the &#8216;physical&#8217; world, but bottom line for you and I living inside the experience, it is a <em>dreamworld</em>, literally, physically and in every reality, it is a <em>dreaming</em>.</p>
<p>QED.</p>
<p>So all these stories, they aren&#8217;t desensitizing you, or jading you or misleading you or disorienting you.  Every last one of them is screaming at you to pay attention and <em>see</em>; as it is written, <i>He who is now called &#8216;prophet&#8217; was once called &#8217;seer&#8217;</i>.  Once seen, one can look for patterns, for principles of gestalt effect, then learn to manipulate the gestalt to obtain an effect or manipulate the effect on some given gestalt (because it is a dreamworld, it is maleable and fluid) and <em>that</em> then moves into the vocation we call <i>shamanism</i>.</p>
<p>Feel any better now?</p>
<p>Of course, I may be handing out a truth here &#8230; but it&#8217;s also a lie <img src='http://www.popocculture.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: McCravey</title>
		<link>http://www.popocculture.com/21/nothings-shocking#comment-16</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This was the very issue I was struggling with last night.  I was tired of trying to redeem every strange metaphor and wierd idea that pops on my radar screen and lingers too long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was the very issue I was struggling with last night.  I was tired of trying to redeem every strange metaphor and wierd idea that pops on my radar screen and lingers too long.
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		<title>by: whatacharacter</title>
		<link>http://www.popocculture.com/21/nothings-shocking#comment-13</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Nice concepts! I love grand metaphors for life: a dance, a battle, etc. However it seems true that as one is required to live in a world of change, a proper inner dialogue is required before adequate outer operations are addressed. 

Balance is needed. One probably appreciates poetry more the better understanding of the language he/she has. Prioritize the ancient maxim &quot;Know Thyself&quot; - where hope is likely first born - then unleash one's unique barbaric yawp before the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice concepts! I love grand metaphors for life: a dance, a battle, etc. However it seems true that as one is required to live in a world of change, a proper inner dialogue is required before adequate outer operations are addressed. </p>
<p>Balance is needed. One probably appreciates poetry more the better understanding of the language he/she has. Prioritize the ancient maxim &#8220;Know Thyself&#8221; - where hope is likely first born - then unleash one&#8217;s unique barbaric yawp before the world.
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		<title>by: skip wiley</title>
		<link>http://www.popocculture.com/21/nothings-shocking#comment-10</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>In Chuck Palahniuk's &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSjwd1r90wA&amp;#38;search&quot;&gt;lecture about self-expression&lt;/a&gt; he makes the point that we live in a time when more stories (metaphors) are available to us than at any time in prior human history.  We have almost more albums than we can listen to, more movies than we can download, more TV shows than we can possibly watch, and the newfound ability to compare the countless mythologies of all time side by side.

&lt;blockquote&gt;If it is all only metaphor, then let us pick the best ones and thumb our noses at the ones that bore us or scare us into complacency.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If ever there was a time in human history for us to make our own personal choice about the story we're to follow, this is it.  Joseph Campbell remarked that we, today, live in a &quot;terminal moraine&quot; of mythology -- many of them old, broken, shattered and nearly forgotten by their contemporaries.  Yet, the light of these metaphors has not gone out fully.  A spark remains that we each may turn into a fire.

When ever would a time be more appropriate for us each to delve into the wilderness and return with the burning flame?  Each of us is a unique phenomenon in this world; each of us must find or construct our own symbol- and story-system to bring this wasteland to life.  May the metaphors of our own choosing be planted within, taking root as they may in the fertile soil of our own human spirit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Chuck Palahniuk&#8217;s <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSjwd1r90wA&amp;search">lecture about self-expression</a> he makes the point that we live in a time when more stories (metaphors) are available to us than at any time in prior human history.  We have almost more albums than we can listen to, more movies than we can download, more TV shows than we can possibly watch, and the newfound ability to compare the countless mythologies of all time side by side.</p>
<blockquote><p>If it is all only metaphor, then let us pick the best ones and thumb our noses at the ones that bore us or scare us into complacency.</p></blockquote>
<p>If ever there was a time in human history for us to make our own personal choice about the story we&#8217;re to follow, this is it.  Joseph Campbell remarked that we, today, live in a &#8220;terminal moraine&#8221; of mythology &#8212; many of them old, broken, shattered and nearly forgotten by their contemporaries.  Yet, the light of these metaphors has not gone out fully.  A spark remains that we each may turn into a fire.</p>
<p>When ever would a time be more appropriate for us each to delve into the wilderness and return with the burning flame?  Each of us is a unique phenomenon in this world; each of us must find or construct our own symbol- and story-system to bring this wasteland to life.  May the metaphors of our own choosing be planted within, taking root as they may in the fertile soil of our own human spirit.
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		<title>by: casper</title>
		<link>http://www.popocculture.com/21/nothings-shocking#comment-9</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>reminds me of 'kafka on the shore' by murakami.  everything is a metaphor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reminds me of &#8216;kafka on the shore&#8217; by murakami.  everything is a metaphor.
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