Comments on: The Politics of Experience by R.D. Laing http://www.popocculture.com/11/the-politics-of-experience-by-rd-laing Transcend Trends Sat, 06 Sep 2008 05:48:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Film Noir and Censorship - Pop Occulture Magazine http://www.popocculture.com/11/the-politics-of-experience-by-rd-laing#comment-123 Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:54:25 +0000 http://www.popocculture.com/11/the-politics-of-experience-by-rd-laing#comment-123 [...] Consider this quote from psychologist R.D. Laing when you think about the purpose of mass media: All those people who seek to control the behavior of large numbers of other people work on the experiences of those other people. Once people can be induced to experience a situation in a similar way, they can be expected to behave in similar ways. Induce people all to want the same thing, hate the same thing, feel the same threat, then their behavior is already captive - you have acquired your consumers or your cannon-fodder. [...] […] Consider this quote from psychologist R.D. Laing when you think about the purpose of mass media: All those people who seek to control the behavior of large numbers of other people work on the experiences of those other people. Once people can be induced to experience a situation in a similar way, they can be expected to behave in similar ways. Induce people all to want the same thing, hate the same thing, feel the same threat, then their behavior is already captive - you have acquired your consumers or your cannon-fodder. […]

]]> by: hf http://www.popocculture.com/11/the-politics-of-experience-by-rd-laing#comment-46 Sat, 08 Jul 2006 18:04:18 +0000 http://www.popocculture.com/11/the-politics-of-experience-by-rd-laing#comment-46 Laing's argument fascinates me. I agree with much of it, but I think it suffers from the Highlander fallacy. There Can Be Only One Cause! Laing’s argument fascinates me. I agree with much of it, but I think it suffers from the Highlander fallacy. There Can Be Only One Cause!

]]> by: The mind of which we are unaware - Pop Occulture Blog http://www.popocculture.com/11/the-politics-of-experience-by-rd-laing#comment-43 Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:28:44 +0000 http://www.popocculture.com/11/the-politics-of-experience-by-rd-laing#comment-43 [...] RD Laing is super awesome, by the way. Check out my recent review of his book The Politics of Experience. Great book. Read Similar Articles: [...] […] RD Laing is super awesome, by the way. Check out my recent review of his book The Politics of Experience. Great book. Read Similar Articles: […]

]]> by: flawedplan http://www.popocculture.com/11/the-politics-of-experience-by-rd-laing#comment-37 Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:57:11 +0000 http://www.popocculture.com/11/the-politics-of-experience-by-rd-laing#comment-37 Hi, I found this blog during my regularly scheduled Laing search, that was a great summation, maybe the best I've ever seen online and I get into these conversations on a ridiculous basis. I've never been here before, am off to take a look around, good show. Hi, I found this blog during my regularly scheduled Laing search, that was a great summation, maybe the best I’ve ever seen online and I get into these conversations on a ridiculous basis. I’ve never been here before, am off to take a look around, good show.

]]> by: Pop Occulture http://www.popocculture.com/11/the-politics-of-experience-by-rd-laing#comment-29 Fri, 23 Jun 2006 04:17:57 +0000 http://www.popocculture.com/11/the-politics-of-experience-by-rd-laing#comment-29 Black&Blue: I have a long 2 part interview with the author of Poker Without Cards <a href="http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/09/11/ben-mack-interview-part-1/" rel="nofollow">here </a>and <a href="http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/09/13/ben-mack-interview-part-2/" rel="nofollow">#2 here</a>. Black&Blue: I have a long 2 part interview with the author of Poker Without Cards here and #2 here.

]]> by: dapperdan http://www.popocculture.com/11/the-politics-of-experience-by-rd-laing#comment-27 Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:46:44 +0000 http://www.popocculture.com/11/the-politics-of-experience-by-rd-laing#comment-27 two words:thomas szasz.any books by the man will enlighten one. two words:thomas szasz.any books by the man will enlighten one.

]]> by: Black&Blue http://www.popocculture.com/11/the-politics-of-experience-by-rd-laing#comment-24 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 23:25:51 +0000 http://www.popocculture.com/11/the-politics-of-experience-by-rd-laing#comment-24 "Another friend of mine went thru an institutionalization during this period. She remembers being fed nightmarish(literally)quantities of haldol while in this hospital. She finally realized that to get released, she had to dress ‘normally’"... This reminds me of a book I re-read recently, called "Poker Without Cards" by Ben Mack. A great read that covers a lot of ground in a Transcript-style presentation. Psychology and Psychiatry are indicted on multiple grounds. A PDF used to be available, may still be, and the book has now been commercially published as well. “Another friend of mine went thru an institutionalization during this period. She remembers being fed nightmarish(literally)quantities of haldol while in this hospital. She finally realized that to get released, she had to dress ‘normally’”…

This reminds me of a book I re-read recently, called “Poker Without Cards” by Ben Mack. A great read that covers a lot of ground in a Transcript-style presentation. Psychology and Psychiatry are indicted on multiple grounds.

A PDF used to be available, may still be, and the book has now been commercially published as well.

]]> by: Jennifer Emick http://www.popocculture.com/11/the-politics-of-experience-by-rd-laing#comment-23 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 20:48:45 +0000 http://www.popocculture.com/11/the-politics-of-experience-by-rd-laing#comment-23 You nailed it, Juno- I was 'rebellious' myself, absolutely disgusted and enraged by the apathy of society, I can't tell you how many of my friends were institutionalized for 'oppositional defiance disorder-' IOW, for demanding of authority that it justify itself. It kills me that while psychoanalysis came about because people wanted to assist people in figuring themselves out, it's now largely a mechanism for drugging people OUT of awareness. (not toi mention the terrible irony of referring to entheogens as 'escapist' and prozac as 'medicine.') You nailed it, Juno- I was ‘rebellious’ myself, absolutely disgusted and enraged by the apathy of society, I can’t tell you how many of my friends were institutionalized for ‘oppositional defiance disorder-’ IOW, for demanding of authority that it justify itself. It kills me that while psychoanalysis came about because people wanted to assist people in figuring themselves out, it’s now largely a mechanism for drugging people OUT of awareness. (not toi mention the terrible irony of referring to entheogens as ‘escapist’ and prozac as ‘medicine.’)

]]> by: juno jones http://www.popocculture.com/11/the-politics-of-experience-by-rd-laing#comment-19 Tue, 20 Jun 2006 17:16:54 +0000 http://www.popocculture.com/11/the-politics-of-experience-by-rd-laing#comment-19 Oh yes, and if you do not conform to false middle class stereotypes you ARE crazy. Like many other mid-west middle-class kids in the punky '80's (and I'm sure it's still going on today...) I went thru my tri-cyclics phase where all of my angst,anger, and deep depression about what adults had done, and were currently doing to this world was boiled down by psychiatrists into some kind of 'rebellion against my parents' and dismissed. I was lucky, tri-cyclics suck and I can read drug PDR's (tardic dyskenesia anyone?) so I traded my drugs to people who had the chemistry to enjoy them for ones(like herb)I could enjoy. Another friend of mine went thru an institutionalization during this period. She remembers being fed nightmarish(literally)quantities of haldol while in this hospital. She finally realized that to get released, she had to dress 'normally' and begin wearing makeup,'doing' her hair (of all things)and acting like a airhead because I guess the powers that be believe that normal teenage girls wear makeup, spend hours in the bathroom doing their hair and prattle incessantly about boys. Isn't that what Betty and Veronica do? None of this asking authority, 'What the F**K are you doing to us?'. If you want to know more about the dangers (and dangerous appeal) of the current psychiatric drugs read a book called 'Talking Back to Prozac' sorry, I don't remember the authors right off hand. All I know is that a 'retrograde' reaction to xanax makes you want to kill everyone then take yourself out. Thank gods some of us have extracurricular experience and can tell when it's just the drugs talking..... Oh yes, and if you do not conform to false middle class stereotypes you ARE crazy. Like many other mid-west middle-class kids in the punky ’80’s (and I’m sure it’s still going on today…) I went thru my tri-cyclics phase where all of my angst,anger, and deep depression about what adults had done, and were currently doing to this world was boiled down by psychiatrists into some kind of ‘rebellion against my parents’ and dismissed. I was lucky, tri-cyclics suck and I can read drug PDR’s (tardic dyskenesia anyone?) so I traded my drugs to people who had the chemistry to enjoy them for ones(like herb)I could enjoy. Another friend of mine went thru an institutionalization during this period. She remembers being fed nightmarish(literally)quantities of haldol while in this hospital. She finally realized that to get released, she had to dress ‘normally’ and begin wearing makeup,’doing’ her hair (of all things)and acting like a airhead because I guess the powers that be believe that normal teenage girls wear makeup, spend hours in the bathroom doing their hair and prattle incessantly about boys. Isn’t that what Betty and Veronica do? None of this asking authority, ‘What the F**K are you doing to us?’.

If you want to know more about the dangers (and dangerous appeal) of the current psychiatric drugs read a book called ‘Talking Back to Prozac’ sorry, I don’t remember the authors right off hand. All I know is that a ‘retrograde’ reaction to xanax makes you want to kill everyone then take yourself out. Thank gods some of us have extracurricular experience and can tell when it’s just the drugs talking…..

]]> by: khephret http://www.popocculture.com/11/the-politics-of-experience-by-rd-laing#comment-15 Tue, 20 Jun 2006 04:53:52 +0000 http://www.popocculture.com/11/the-politics-of-experience-by-rd-laing#comment-15 If you're interested in finding out more about the antipsychiatry movement, you would do well to read the works of Gilles Deleuze and Felix Guattari. Their works cover a number of different subjects, mainly because Deleuze was a philosopher and Guattari was a psychiatrist. They definitely were big fans of Laing. You might try reading <i>the Anti-Oedipus:Capitalism &#38; Schizophrenia</i>, if you can get past the purposely obtuse writing style (they're French). -k If you’re interested in finding out more about the antipsychiatry movement, you would do well to read the works of Gilles Deleuze and Felix Guattari. Their works cover a number of different subjects, mainly because Deleuze was a philosopher and Guattari was a psychiatrist. They definitely were big fans of Laing. You might try reading the Anti-Oedipus:Capitalism & Schizophrenia, if you can get past the purposely obtuse writing style (they’re French).

-k

]]> by: spiritual_recovery http://www.popocculture.com/11/the-politics-of-experience-by-rd-laing#comment-5 Sat, 10 Jun 2006 06:30:37 +0000 http://www.popocculture.com/11/the-politics-of-experience-by-rd-laing#comment-5 Came across this tonight, I thought it fit well with the theme... <b><a href="http://psychwatch.blogspot.com/2004/05/eli-lilly-zyprexa-bush-family.html" rel="nofollow">Eli Lilly, Zyprexa, &#38; the Bush Family - The diseasing of our malaise</a></b> Came across this tonight, I thought it fit well with the theme…

Eli Lilly, Zyprexa, & the Bush Family - The diseasing of our malaise

]]> by: spiritual_recovery http://www.popocculture.com/11/the-politics-of-experience-by-rd-laing#comment-4 Thu, 08 Jun 2006 12:40:47 +0000 http://www.popocculture.com/11/the-politics-of-experience-by-rd-laing#comment-4 <i>All those people who seek to control the behavior of large numbers of other people work on the experiences of those other people. Once people can be induced to experience a situation in a similar way, they can be expected to behave in similar ways. Induce people all to want the same thing, hate the same thing, feel the same threat, then their behavior is already captive - you have acquired your consumers or your cannon-fodder.</i> Something that continues to surprise me of late is the similarity between the f control and manipulation I see coming from various government sects and that which has historically been displayed in the treatment of the mentally ill. Perhaps this is because much of psychiatry is rooted in authority and control, this idea that "I know best so you should/will/must do as I say". Any indication that you won't is an indication of your illness. I find myself reflecting too, on the fact that long before the Nazi's "rounded up" the Jews, they first exterminated the "mentally ill". When one considers the desires of the current administration to pre-screen all Americans for mental illness, the deception and greed surrounding the pharmaceutical industry (big pharma generated ten billion in sales last year and antipsychotic medication is now being routinely prescribed even to pre-school children), as coupled with the contract for detention centres across America that Halliburton managed to pick up... it's apparent that what we think is of vital concern to many. All those people who seek to control the behavior of large numbers of other people work on the experiences of those other people. Once people can be induced to experience a situation in a similar way, they can be expected to behave in similar ways. Induce people all to want the same thing, hate the same thing, feel the same threat, then their behavior is already captive - you have acquired your consumers or your cannon-fodder.

Something that continues to surprise me of late is the similarity between the f control and manipulation I see coming from various government sects and that which has historically been displayed in the treatment of the mentally ill. Perhaps this is because much of psychiatry is rooted in authority and control, this idea that “I know best so you should/will/must do as I say”. Any indication that you won’t is an indication of your illness. I find myself reflecting too, on the fact that long before the Nazi’s “rounded up” the Jews, they first exterminated the “mentally ill”.

When one considers the desires of the current administration to pre-screen all Americans for mental illness, the deception and greed surrounding the pharmaceutical industry (big pharma generated ten billion in sales last year and antipsychotic medication is now being routinely prescribed even to pre-school children), as coupled with the contract for detention centres across America that Halliburton managed to pick up… it’s apparent that what we think is of vital concern to many.

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